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Postby Verdant » Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:35 pm

From the feminist comic book site, Girl-Wonder.org:

Caribou23 wrote:Pride High, by Tommy Roddy. Published by Pride Comics and distributed by Indyplanet and Ka-blam.
Take a classic superhero theme and spin it around: Poseidon Preparatory Academy for Heroic Youth is reminiscent of Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters, and Pride High definitely has the feel of those classic New Mutants stories. The added twist is a refreshingly diverse and hip young cast, who aren't afraid to be open about their sexuality or to defend their openly queer friends when classmates try to bully them.
An added bonus is that the creator does post here, and signed one of my copies of the comic with "Yay for Girl-Wonder!"

Violence: There is violence, although the violence is handled respectfully and the creator assures us that the death of one of the main characters will not be forgotten.
Sexualized violence: So far none, but I'm not very far into the series
Gender: Several strong female characters, one of the more powerful characters in the book is a blind Indian girl with solar powers. Also, none of the women are depicted as passive objects in the artwork and actually look like athletic teenage girls.
Bechdel's law: Passes
Racism/transphobia/homophobia/ableism/other discrimination? None that isn't clearly criticized in the text. Also, the bullies who harass the main characters with homophobic, racist and ableist slurs aren't just one-dimensional biggots, and actually come to their rescue when a Danger Room-esque training session goes horribly wrong.
Parents may wish to be aware Some violence, some sex jokes, but nothing particularly over-the-top vulgar. Probably suitable for kids aged 13 and up.
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Postby The Hellion » Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:46 pm

Things that fail Bechdel's law on a regular basis:
Power rangers
Superman
The Flash
Spiderman

Things that get an A+
PRIDE HIGH PRIDE HIGH PRIDE HIGH!!!
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Bechdel's Law

Postby JT » Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:38 am

I looked it up so you don't have to:

the Bechdel Test, also named the Mo Movie Measure or Bechdel's Law. ... The test appears in a 1985 strip entitled The Rule in which a character says that she only watches a movie if it satisfies the following requirements:
1. It has to have at least two women in it, who
2. Talk to each other about,
3. Something besides a man.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dykes_to_Watch_Out_For
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Postby JT » Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:46 am

You know, there ought to be a similar test for movies with gay characters:

1. There is a gay but not stereotypical male in an important role and
2. He has a lover that everyone knows about and
3. Everyone takes it for granted; it's no big deal.

Alternately:

1. There is a gay but not stereotypical male in an important role and
2. He's dating, and
3. Everyone takes it for granted; it's no big deal.

Oh, and #4. He's still alive at the end of the movie.

Has anyone ever seen such a movie? Ever?

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Postby JT » Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:01 pm

Okay, now I have seen the closest thing to the Gay Rules I made up back in August -- the Donald Strachey mysteries starring Chad Allen.
Shock to the System.
Third Man Out.
Third Man Out features Jack Wetherall, who played Uncle Vic on QAF.

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Postby Dalebert » Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:34 pm

JT wrote:1. There is a gay but not stereotypical male in an important role and
2. He has a lover that everyone knows about and
3. Everyone takes it for granted; it's no big deal.


If they'll just make a movie of the book I'm writing now, it will pass with flying colors. No one makes a big deal about the fact that the two main characters are both male, but they make a fuss over some other issues about them being together.

"Hey dad, I'm dating another guy."

"That's cool, son. Bring him home for dinner so we can meet him."

"He's not a werewolf though."

"WHAT??!!"

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